Curse

Bobby2 · Dec 13, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

It's unlinked! It's cheap! Rip on this and post your own, you know the drill.

[iron [email protected]][falling [email protected]][horns of the [email protected]][falling lotus [email protected]][twisting [email protected]][wastrel's collapse][scorpion [email protected]][empty]

Optional either [resurrection signet] or [dash] depending on format.

EDIT: intended for AB or RA, in case anyone has to make snotty remarks about this being a PvE forum

Tyla · Dec 13, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

[wastrel's collapse][falling lotus strike][twisting fangs][golden phoenix strike][horns of the ox][falling spider][blades of steel][flurry]

HAHAHAIMAKEYOUBURNINHELL

Oh, and er, yeah, an ally brings Strength of Honour for you.

O-D-O-D-O-D OWNZZZZZZZZ

moriz · Dec 14, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

[wastrel's collapse][falling spider][horns of the ox][falling lotus strike][blades of steel][tiger stance][impale][dash]

that's currently posted as my guild's announcement.

ensoriki · Dec 14, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

I have 3 builds.
1.Wastrels
2. Off hand
3. Dual
4. off hand
5. Dual
6. Off hand
7. Dual
8. IAS.

Second build
1.Wastrels Collapse
2. Tiger Stance
3. Arcane Echo
4. Flourish
5. Off hand
6. Dual
7. Offhand
8. Dual.

Third build.
1. Wastrels
2. Unsuspecting Strike
3. Mantis Touch
4. Trampling Ox
5. Falling Spider/ Falling Lotus Strike
6. Twisting Fangs
7. Bulls Strike/Disrupting Dagger/ Dash/ Flurry
8, Res Sig/ one of the above/condition removal

bartjé · Dec 14, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

[QUOTE=ensoriki;4398966]
Second build
1.Wastrels Collapse
2. Tiger Stance
3. Arcane Echo
4. Flourish
5. Off hand
6. Dual
7. Offhand
8. Dual.
[QUOTE]

How were you planning to use flourish + Arcane echo? and second flourish and wastrels are both elite so I think flourish should be removed^^

My build :

Wastrels Collapse
Falling spider
Horns of the ox
Falling lotus
Nine tale Strike
Sharpen daggers
Conjure Frost/Flame/Air
Ress sig

turbo234 · Dec 14, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

Second build
1.Wastrels Collapse
2. Tiger Stance
3. Arcane Echo
4. Flourish
5. Off hand
6. Dual
7. Offhand
8. Dual.

you have 2 elites and 3 professions? leetest build evar

X Cytherea X · Dec 14, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

[wastrel's collapse][falling lotus strike][twisting fangs][golden phoenix strike][blades of steel][holy veil][mending touch][resurrection signet]

Bobby2 · Dec 14, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartjé

Wastrels Collapse
Falling spider
Horns of the ox
Falling lotus
Nine tale Strike
Sharpen daggers
Conjure Frost/Flame/Air
Ress sig

Build lacks Deep Wound (uuuugh). [sharpen daggers] is a waste of a skill slot.

So far I've been seeing a lot of builds wth WC as their only source of KD. I guess y'all don't mind the 20 second recharge...

X Cytherea X · Dec 15, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

^ yeah it's a PITA.

and since RA is so spammy, WC fails sometimes... bah, palm strike pwns it any way

sheeptoken · Dec 31, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12

i like blades of steel with this on the 2nd chain. Mine goes as following:

Wastrel's Collapse
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Leaping Mantis Sting
Wild Strike
Blades of Steel
Restful Breeze
Rez Signet (or Dash when in AB)

Stealth Bomberman · Feb 12, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50

[wastrels collapse]

I run this in AB everytime. compared to current meta [palm strike] sins, this skill takes the cake as one of my fav. does any1 else use it?

EDIT: skill descp. is wrong on skill icon ^^.

update: Shadow Step to target foe. If that foe is not using a skill, that foe is knocked down. All your non-dagger attack skills are disabled for 10 seconds.

Celeborn10 · Feb 12, 2009, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

[wastrels collapse]

I run this in AB everytime. compared to current meta [palm strike] sins, this skill takes the cake as one of my fav. does any1 else use it?

EDIT: skill descp. is wrong on skill icon ^^.

update: Shadow Step to target foe. If that foe is not using a skill, that foe is knocked down. All your non-dagger attack skills are disabled for 10 seconds.

Hmm, you know personally I prefer Shadow Walk->Shove for that sort of thing. Stronger, more broken movement and same recharge on the spike. Even better is the standard Palm Strike with Shock and Shadow Walk.

Vallisahllirium · Feb 12, 2009, 08:42 AM // 08:42

Mine is:
1.falling spider
2.vampiric assault
3.impale
4.toxic shock
5.scorpion wire
6.wastrels collapse
7.shadow refuge
8.dash

deals really nice dmg (mostly armor ignoring as you can see), and was suprised how scorpion wire is actually cool skill

btw 14 deadly arts is must

Lusciious · Feb 12, 2009, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

^ yeah it's a PITA.

and since RA is so spammy, WC fails sometimes... bah, palm strike pwns it any way

if palm strike gets dshot, have fun waiting for 24 seconds for it to recharge.

a PvP Sin without an IAS cant spike properly as spikes can be easily noticed by Monks and can be countered by them easily.

The only good [Wastrel's Collapse] build is the one on pvxwiki because it doesnt rely on [Wastrel's Collapse], [Wastrel's Collapse] is there for an extra KD or a shadowstep. Whereas most of the builds here all have [Falling Spider] / [Falling Lotus Strike] after [Wastrel's Collapse] which is a terrible idea. Although if you manage to knock em down with [Wastrel's Collapse], your chain would be deadly with different variants like [Twisting Fangs] and [Blades of Steel] for a high combo damage + deep wound , you'd have to time your [Wastrel's Collapse] and if you lag or something, [Wastrel's Collapse] will fail and there goes your spike, you'd have to wait another 20 seconds for [Wastrel's Collapse] to recharge before you can spike again. yes i know relying on [Horns of the Ox] isnt that good, if you can somehow get someone to cripple em, swap [Fox Fangs] for [Jungle Strike] and [Horns of the Ox] for [Trampling Ox]

p.s. im sorry about the numerous number of [Wastrel's Collapse] icons . lol

Luminarus · Feb 12, 2009, 09:51 AM // 09:51

WC is so gud imo. With it I can reliably take down pretty much anything, and can even escape other types of sins. When a palm strike runs towards you, run away as their using PS, then WC the noob

Luminarus · Feb 12, 2009, 10:00 AM // 10:00

I run this in AB/JQ/FA and sometimes RA (put in rez for sdh, or swap bos+impale for twisting fangs)

[Wastrels Collapse][Falling [email protected]][Horns of the [email protected]][Golden Phoenix [email protected]][Blades of [email protected]][[email protected]][Conjure [email protected]][Storm Djinn's [email protected]]

Dagger = 11+1+1
Crit = 8+1
Deadly = 3+1
Air = 11

Very fun, and very effective. Not as fast as other W/C builds, and cant quaterknock. However it has the advantage of being able to complete a chain if WC fails, and can put out a full chain, and a non deep wound chain in between WC recahrges.

jayce · Feb 12, 2009, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Wastrel's Collaspe+Tiger Stance
Unsupecting Strike
Falling Lotus
Horns Of The Ox
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs

Just don't screw up with Wastrel or target selection and your target shouldn't even touch you until after you have landed Spider.

Jayce Of Underworld

Morgoth the dark · Feb 12, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

[wastrel's collapse][falling spider][mark of instability][twisting fangs][falling lotus strike][blades of steel][frenzy][dash]

that's it.

cerick · Feb 12, 2009, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Has everyone lost their will to flame? Even peoples responses to Ensoriki’s laughable post have been reasonable. Is it because the game is near dead?

Where is the usual “I don’t care if it works for you, your stupid, my way is much better because I use one different skill.” talk? Well I’m just going to have to fake flame since people are really letting me down.

1)Why don’t you have an IAS, my God man!
2)My IAS is better than yours, my God man!
3)Why do you have so many KDs, my God man!
4)Why don’t you have more KDs, my God man!
5)This build can be so easily defeated with my God like ability to use the one interrupt I usually bring.
6)This build can be so easily defeated by that monk I cry to get before every match, my God man!

But seriously I like the build Bobby; in AB I really like having a KD machine in the group. I have to add this one suggestion just too possibly make this post-worthy.

I would personally make one minor tweak, and I stress the word minor. Change out the Deadly Arts rune, for a Critical Strikes rune. I originally had thoughts of doing this (and shifting attribute points) in order for a re-chained opponent to possibly have deep wound still applied. But that won’t happen without serious tweaking, and is probably a moot point. But IMO since deadly arts really doesn’t give you much for this build, tweaking up Critical Strikes would give you more bang for your buck especially since weakness skills are well in use these days.

Super Igor · Feb 13, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08

shove > wastrel's collapse imo cuz its mor manly x: